How about this one: "Our meetings are free, there is no obligation"
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Sea Breeze
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What is Your Favorite WT Lie?
by Sea Breeze ini would like to start a thread on lies that the watchtower and their reps have told.
surely we all have one or two that truly sticks out in our memories, no matter how much we would like to forget.
my favorite wt lie: the reason they don't want to release the name of the "scholars" who worked on the new world translation is because they do not want to accept "glory and honor" from others.
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Creation, Not Evolution Best Explains Genetics
by Sea Breeze inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umnhg0a9dlu.
evolutionists can change their model, and invent stories whenever they want to accomodate data.
biblical literalists are stuck with just one model, one account, and are unable to change it.
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Sea Breeze
I personally don't think there is such a thing as orthodox Jews today in the original sense of the word. Back in the day, the Essenes were the orthodox Jews, the Saducees were the secularists and the Pharisees were the professional religionists that held their elders meetings to determine how to interpret scripture. Dr. Ken Johnson has translated a lot of the dead sea scrolls, and his work really opens the door to what was going on in the Jewish community before and after the time of Christ.
The past president of the Flat Earth Society was an evolutionist. I'm sure it was just a coincidence.
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Creation, Not Evolution Best Explains Genetics
by Sea Breeze inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umnhg0a9dlu.
evolutionists can change their model, and invent stories whenever they want to accomodate data.
biblical literalists are stuck with just one model, one account, and are unable to change it.
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That is why dinosaur soft tissue is regularly observed and carbon dated at only a few thousand years old. It is also why dinosaur bones smell just like rotting cadavers. But, this topic isn't about results of carbon dating dinosaur biological material.
It is about looking at the empirical evidence of genetics.
Like the Largest Genetic DNA Study ever done on evolution in 2018 published by the journal: Human Evolution found that there was no intergenetic relationship between species and that all animal and human life arose around the same time.
And like the Longest Genetic study on evolution (nearly 40 years) looking at E.coli by Dr. Richard Linsk. After 75,000 generations, which equates to millions of years for other organisms; it proved micro evolution, not macro evolution.
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Trump wins
by gavindlt ini am non political and have never voted but nonetheless i have been keenly watching to see how the trump presidential race unfolds.
i believe that his involvement in propelling or influencing a leaning toward bible prophecy will unfold.
how, i can’t say but something tells me that this anomaly and outlier being trump is highly signifiant!
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Sea Breeze
Bruce Jenner applauds common sense returning to the White House after meeting with Trump and Elon. No word yet on when his own common sense might be returning.
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Creation, Not Evolution Best Explains Genetics
by Sea Breeze inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umnhg0a9dlu.
evolutionists can change their model, and invent stories whenever they want to accomodate data.
biblical literalists are stuck with just one model, one account, and are unable to change it.
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Sea Breeze
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMNHG0A9dLU
Evolutionists can change their model, and invent stories whenever they want to accomodate data. Biblical literalists are stuck with just one model, one account, and are unable to change it.
This video explores how the genetic evidence is best explained from an unchanging creation model. -
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What is Your Favorite WT Lie?
by Sea Breeze ini would like to start a thread on lies that the watchtower and their reps have told.
surely we all have one or two that truly sticks out in our memories, no matter how much we would like to forget.
my favorite wt lie: the reason they don't want to release the name of the "scholars" who worked on the new world translation is because they do not want to accept "glory and honor" from others.
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@blondie
I agree when in person. But for posting online, I think documented quote snippets are very effective, and make people more comfortable cut and pasting the data.
Watchtower will die a death from a thousand knives, not a just a few hard punches. I have always been a little surprised at the diversity of reasons of WHY people leave the Watchtower.
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What is Your Favorite WT Lie?
by Sea Breeze ini would like to start a thread on lies that the watchtower and their reps have told.
surely we all have one or two that truly sticks out in our memories, no matter how much we would like to forget.
my favorite wt lie: the reason they don't want to release the name of the "scholars" who worked on the new world translation is because they do not want to accept "glory and honor" from others.
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Sea Breeze
Really appreciate all the responses. But, if people are going to use these, they will need references. Plese cite references if possible. Otherwise, JW's will just call us liars and haters.
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Trump wins
by gavindlt ini am non political and have never voted but nonetheless i have been keenly watching to see how the trump presidential race unfolds.
i believe that his involvement in propelling or influencing a leaning toward bible prophecy will unfold.
how, i can’t say but something tells me that this anomaly and outlier being trump is highly signifiant!
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Sea Breeze
Trump is quite polarising.
Yes, so is common sense. Meanwhile, MSNBC and CNN are discussing: How will the Trump win affect minorities such as chest feeders?
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What is Your Favorite WT Lie?
by Sea Breeze ini would like to start a thread on lies that the watchtower and their reps have told.
surely we all have one or two that truly sticks out in our memories, no matter how much we would like to forget.
my favorite wt lie: the reason they don't want to release the name of the "scholars" who worked on the new world translation is because they do not want to accept "glory and honor" from others.
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Sea Breeze
As usual, when you pop the hood and look at the engine, you find out that instead of a Chevy all you got was a toy from Fischer-Price.
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What is Your Favorite WT Lie?
by Sea Breeze ini would like to start a thread on lies that the watchtower and their reps have told.
surely we all have one or two that truly sticks out in our memories, no matter how much we would like to forget.
my favorite wt lie: the reason they don't want to release the name of the "scholars" who worked on the new world translation is because they do not want to accept "glory and honor" from others.
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Sea Breeze
I wrote this about the Lie that Franz was a Rhodes Scholar some years ago:
Macmillan wrote of Franz in his 1957 book - "Faith On The March": “he carried away the honors at the University of Cincinnati and was offered the privilege of going to Oxford or Cambridge in England under the Rhodes plan” (pg. 181). “Besides Spanish, Franz has a fluent knowledge of Portuguese and German and is conversant with French. He is also a scholar of Hebrew and Greek as well as Syriac and Latin, all of which contribute to making him a thoroughly reliable mainstay on Knorr’s editorial staff” (pg. 182).
So, here apparently was one source of the rumors regarding Mr. Franz’s intellectual and linguistic prowess that I had heard so much about as a young boy. However, the facts about his education prove problematic for the support of such claims. Scanned copies of the scholastic transcripts of Mr. Franz’s work as a student at the University of Cincinnati show that Mr. Fredrick William Franz quit his university education well before completing his bachelors’ degree (first tier 4 year degree).
So, how could it be true that Franz “carried away the honors of the University of Cincinnati” when he didn’t even graduate?
Franz seemed to try to run a little interference for himself when he wrote in his autobiography (in the article “Looking Back Over 93 Years of Living” for the May 1, 1987, Watchtower magazine):
“I had been chosen to go to Ohio State University to take competitive examinations with others to win the prize of the Cecil Rhodes Scholarship.”
Simply being told what a student must accomplish in order to be invited to Oxford as a Rhodes Scholar, is certainly not the same as “being offered the privilege of going to Oxford or Cambridge in England under the Rhodes plan”. This started me to thinking that there might be more to this story than met the eye. I wondered if there was anything else here that was different than what I’d been led to believe?
First, let’s consider the other linguistic claims about Mr. Franz that was distributed in all the Kingdom Halls in the late 1950’s. Macmillan wrote: “Franz has a fluent knowledge of Portuguese and German and is conversant with French. He is also a scholar of Hebrew and Greek as well as Syriac and Latin.”
However, according to Mr. Franz’s college transcript, his major language studies were in classical Greek (21 semester hours), not Koine Greek in which the New Testament was written. The Greek Franz studied has different grammar and syntax from that of biblical Greek.
At that time, there was only one course in biblical Greek even offered at the University of Cincinnati.
According to the 1911 university catalog, page 119, that course was titled: “The New Testament – A course in grammar and translation.” Although Franz did take this class, this was not a full 3-hour college credit course. This was simply a survey course of New Testament Greek. Therefore it could legitimately be said that Franz never completed not even one typical college course in New Testament Greek. The one short course he did take was in a sense, well….anti-typical; if I may use a favorite phrase of his.
